
I think he was probably less magenta in real life.
Wail on, Skydog!
well I'm the colorblind one here so...he could be, I couldn't tell the diff.
I can make out the outline of a badass LP tho'...
Thanks Florida Cracker.
Posted by: csason at November 29, 2006 06:07 AMLooks like Whipping Post to me...
Posted by: Carl in Atlanta at November 29, 2006 06:34 AMHow you tell it's Whipping Post, Carl?
Posted by: Donnah at November 29, 2006 12:27 PMI bet he was kidding, Donnah. Thanks for the pic. Scott
Posted by: Scott at November 29, 2006 04:30 PMI'm going to have to keep my eye on Carl.
Posted by: Donnah at November 29, 2006 04:40 PMY'all can't tell??! Just look at his face and play the song in your mind ( like I do) and you'll see it too.
Definitely W.P.
Posted by: Carl in Atlanta at November 29, 2006 05:55 PMNaw, definitely "Hot 'Lanta".
HA !
neither...WP is in A (Am) and so is HotLanta...
He is in the pentatonic scale of D fellas...Dm for
propriety's sake, so that would narrow it down to
something else...hmmm
probably Elizabeth Reed..
Posted by: csason at November 29, 2006 06:13 PMRespectfully, I change my vote to "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed".
Posted by: Paco Malo at November 29, 2006 06:51 PMHow about "Dreams" ? (From the looks of this pic, I wanted to say "Purple Rain")
Posted by: Raoul at November 30, 2006 03:33 AMoperationhappynoteDOTcom
Posted by: csason at November 30, 2006 06:24 AMOnly other place I've seen hair like that is in an old ladies' retirement home.
Wail on!
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at November 30, 2006 09:47 AMDear csason,
Thanks for the referral to operationhappynoteDOTcom. I know if I were in Iraq, as a truck driver or an MP, I sure would find great comfort in having a mandolin in my hands.
Posted by: Paco Malo at November 30, 2006 09:59 AMThey have down-time too, Paco.
Posted by: Donnah at November 30, 2006 10:23 AMClearly he's playing solo, and I don't see a bottleneck. So we can rule out Dreams.
Posted by: Peter at November 30, 2006 06:09 PM"Dreams" is in Em... He is in Dm..clearly..
Peter..Duane used a Corcidan bottle..I have never seen a pic of him with a bona fide Bottleneck. I think I saw one shot of him with a steel slide.
As for the Happynote deal, PLEASE send guitars to the troops. If it wasn't for my brother wanting to be like Dylan, I would have never rec'd his leftover-handmedown F-hole Harmony.
Wikipedia article confirms, as csason notes, that Duane used a glass Coricidan bottle exclusively as his slide.
Check it out... not all of "Dreams" is played with a "bottleneck", only his middle solo and he plays in standard tuning.
As for the Coricidan bottle, it was his "trademark" slide of choice for electric (brass for acoustic) but he was known to pilfer little glass creamer bottles from roadside diners in the early days, and the occasional broke off whiskey bottle neck ("Comin' Down").
Not that I want to argue with Wikipedia...
Posted by: Raoul at December 1, 2006 01:23 PMI failed to expound on the finer points of Dreams..but Wiki is correct of course.. it is one of the songs DA did where standard tuning was used AND he played some slide.
Now for the 10 pointer.
Name another song (there are a few) DA played where he left the guitar in standard (A44) tuning, but used the slide.
5 points off for a bad guess
10 points off for Mr. Bingley's bad guess.
Posted by: csason at December 1, 2006 03:53 PMDear Raoul,
If I have misstated Wikipedia's entry, or Wikipedia is wrong, then you can help us all by becoming part of the Wikipedia community that builds this, among other topics, music encyclopedia. It's all volunteers working together to get the, in this case, history of rock n' roll right.
And that is way groovy.
Posted by: Paco Malo at December 1, 2006 10:14 PMDear csason;
"Trouble No More" (?)
Dear Paco Malo;
Sorry if I conveyed a "tone" in my comment. As I reread it, I see it may be perceived as sarcastic. I am a big user & supporter of Wikipedia.
I only object to the word "exclusively" and wanted to point out the others Duane used for slide. He did make the coricidan bottle famous, but it was his talent (musically & dexterously) that created the immortal music style.
I got one of those bottles years ago & I still don't sound like him...
Raoul, you're right of course. As far as I'm concerned, Duane's 'middle solo' IS Dreams.
csason, a rose by any other name is still a bottleneck.:)
no I don't thnk so..
Trouble No More, as with all of his tunes, I first learned in standard tuning..then figured he was using open E, which is my understanding that key was used on Trouble No More.
but I could be wrong.
guess I'll have to check my Hal Leonard stuff again.
Unless you're in the face of obvious evil like INDC Bill or Bingley, lighten up on each other. I like hearing whatever anybody's gonna write about Duane or his music and don't want anybody runned off.
Posted by: Donnah at December 2, 2006 08:30 AMstill a great picture,,you get em donnah thanks again..and oh yeah hard to tell with the mic stand in the way iam voteing for mountain jam.. moe
Posted by: kevin fitzpatrick at December 2, 2006 11:06 AMdamn..we were just shootin the breeze..
Posted by: csason at December 2, 2006 03:41 PMThat's fine as long as everyone remembers we're all brothers and sisters here.
Posted by: Donnah at December 2, 2006 05:36 PMHey, I hope nobody takes anything I say serious here..
please..if I wrote something that had any questionable connotation to it..that seems challenging or oppositional, I apologize and all that.
I have a lot of fun just talking about Duane.
Posted by: csason at December 2, 2006 10:22 PMI bet you melt under the pew a lot at church, thinking that the preacher's talking about you. ;)
Posted by: Donnah at December 2, 2006 10:27 PMhe is.
it's all a ruse... though, debating about a song possibility based on an isolated, obscurred still.
"I can name that tune WITHOUT any notes..indeed"
Reminds me of hearing two guys arguing about battles
in Vietnam, and they weren't there.
I just don't want to get my ass barred.
Posted by: csason at December 3, 2006 09:46 AMHey, I apologized...and I'm meeting with the Wikipedia people Monday to apologize at a press conference. And if that don't work, I'll check into rehab... FORGIVE ME!
csason; What are the other tunes Duane played in standard? According to everything I've been reading lately, Duane didn't start open tunings 'til he met John Hammond Jr., right after they cut the first album. He was even playing "Statesboro" in standard up 'til then (check out the "Dreams" box set).
I almost bad-mouthed Hal Leonard (yeah, like he was there...), but then I'd have to apologize to his estate.
Posted by: Raoul at December 3, 2006 01:24 PMRaoul,
I am so NOT sure. I played SB and DSW in standard tuning for thirty years, with a pick. I know the songs when I am plugged into them, but right now it's Sunday..
Everytime I figure out a little more, it opens up another box.
It's easy enough to tell.. the tunes using open tuning are distinguishable from the others by the 'two-note' frams. When DA used the 'frams' (to mask the space between the notes) it is in open tuning.
I have the opinion that Duane studied technique, and then put together a series of closed riffs, *that sounded clean whether he was solo or not*, then was able to merge them when he had backing.
In fact, I believe that's how he put it together.
Also, *any* musician will tell you about time and place, time and place... the Fillmore set was sweet IMO, because it captured a great moment for DA. Prime hall, prime fiddle/amps, and he was ready. But what was captured was some great 'spaces in between the notes' that are almost impossible to replicate...as any slide player could relate.
I have been practicing the 'two note fram' and is is fun..but it really has opened up some doors.
I also believe that Duane Allman practiced this method by removing all but the first three or four strings..maybe not.
On the songs SB and DSW also..by playing in Dm, in open E tuning, he capitalized on the notes usable in that position, as you well know. What comes to mind is the Warbler. It's the only term I know to describe certain sounds the glass, 59 Lester resonance,Skydog's fingers and those Celestions made.
Those warbles cannot be made in any other tuning for that song/key than what he used...and he had to know that. But if turn the amp down, or use a Strat, or use steel...it cannot be done. Well..not the same way.
If you ever have a chance to listen to Flatt and Scruggs at Carnegie Hall LIVE...the first thing you realize is these guys had no idea how extremely talented they were. (played alittle slide too) I think DA had some of that going on..it's almost a Southern thing. Overcompensation on the performance front, staving off any naysayers and critics.
Wow, nice pic. I havent seen any like this one before, neat find! =D
Now about the song he's playing... It cant be Trouble No More because thats entirely slide.. and I dont recall him playing that high up on the neck without the slide on Dreams...
I dont totally disagree with Whipping Post, but dont wholeheartedly believe hes playing that one either...
Elizabeth Reed? Possibly... I dont really know.. But hes having a real good time, and so do I looking at this great picture. B)