I mailed my vote in for the primary the morning before I heard he'd pulled out. I'd already inked it in so it was too late to change anyway. But damn. Because of the wonderful electoral college, my November vote won't matter. It would have been nice if the *primary* had.

Sorry to hear that. Ol' Fred dilly-dallied his way right out of my heart. A shame considering our beliefs are so similar -- except I can't stand a man who dilly-dallies and evidently he can.

I was/am a fredhead. Too bad for him, especially since they're now saying that he would have gotten all 47 delegates from Louisiana.

Meh, he was the only person running that was as close to my conservative beliefs that I would have voted for. Now ? I'm not so sure I could stomach voting for "The lesser of two liberals" to cast a ballot.

He was the one I wanted. I can't envision pulling the lever for any of these folks left in the race.

What's particularly annoying are those folks who are Republicans without ideology. They argue that I should vote for a Republican to keep the Dems out. They shriek about the appointment of judges. Well, the Republicans have proven that they can't be blindly trusted to do what I think right any more than the Democrats do. We gave them a President and House for four years, and the Senate for two, and all they did was spend money and make excuses about how we had to elect more Republicans.

I see no more hope now than I did in the early 70s when Nixon was increasing the size of government and the only alternative was the Dems, who would increase it even more. I'm fed up.

I don't blame Fred. You have to want to be president with every fiber of what's left of your heavily mortgaged soul in order to take the grind of campaigning--either that or you're really running for a cabinet position as a consolation.

I think Fred bought the idea that there'd be a great uprising for him, and he'd sweep into first place without having to grind it out, and it didn't happen, and he didn't want it bad enough to have to kiss babies and promise the Atty Gen's job to five different people and interrupt people's breakfasts at Joe's Diner on Hwy 49 in BF Iowa at 6am to show he's "plain folks."

I can't blame him. I rather respect him for not going through the charade.

Romney will get the nod..McCain and Hillary should run on the same ticket..in fact they might, John wants to outdo his Daddy and Grandad so bad he'll resort to anything, as long as it includes kissing his Father-in-law's ass.

I'm voting for Ron Paul.

"...Ron Paul..."

Oh dear God. We're doomed.

Can we fast forward four years?

I feel thy pain, man. You know, as an Independent, if the Dems were to nominate anybody but Hillary-- Obama, Edwards, anybody-- I'd vote for the Democrats in 2008.

But since the Dems will probably do their usual Kool-Aid drinking routine and nominate Hillary Clinton-- even if Obama wins the delegates (which he very well might), due to Bill Clinton's all-but bribery of the DNC-- I'll probably have to hold my nose, wear a gas mask and vote for McCain.

Annoyed as I am about things right now, I still care about my country too much to let the USA perish in abject humiliation by countenancing another 4 years of disgusting, self-destructive public Clinton narcissism. The Clintons have shown this in the primary campaign, with their childish behavior, acts of fraud and other assorted idiocy. They are pathological narcissists and at a time like this, basically guided missiles against the survival of our country.

Most of my friends say the same thing. They dislike or even loathe McCain, but paradoxically many of them will be voting for McCain in the primaries and of course in the general election, if for no other reason than that as much as they dislike him-- the guy does have some true guts, and his nature is so against the narcissistic pathology of the Clintons that not only would he demolish Hillary in the general election, he'd show that the American people are smart enough to see the lethal threat to our nation that the Clintons pose.

That's how sad this 2008 election is. Sad, sad, sad. And it shows especially how pathetic, utterly and absolutely stupid and PATHETIC the Democrats are. They could win with almost anybody, grab some guy off the street and put a "D" sign on him-- and, yet, the Dems will probably nominate Hillary Clinton, the one person who absolutely cannot win, and in fact the one person who is so hated by Republicans, Independents, even many Democrats that she'll basically create a new anti-Democratic coalition in 2008. Idiots.

Damn..Donnah puts a black Freday wreath on her door
and a whole slew of critters come sniffin the garbage...

Regardless of who gets the *belch* nomination from either party, the Feds can always nudge the rate
a few more points...or buy a can of Fix-a-Flat, but once that's done by Gawlly, we can get back to this bizness of shipping that ordnance to Prince Ibestrokin !

I wonder if Hillary and Obama will fall in love and have an affair while they're in office..it'd probably earn them a second term.

Last word about Fred.. You know Donnah..I had hoped
Ol Red pickup truck Fred would make us proud..
but I think he figured he would step into the Ronald Reagan mold as 'easily' as the Gipper did.

Reagan was leading man in most of his roles..

Fred was a character actor...big difference.

I don't think Freddy ever had any real inspiration or conviction of his own, but caved in to flattery and persuation. When the swings started coming at his wife and family, he got a whiff of all the big shit to come and decided just to let it die.
I can't blame him for that.

Duane would have voted Obama if he were alive. He's a brother, after all.

That's assuming, of course, Duane even gave a flying f*** about politics. My guess is he'd shake his head in disgust and say they're all a bunch of lying, thieving aholes who love wars as long as the profits are rolling in and someone else's kids are fighting them.

And then wail on.

Duane most certainly would have voted the peace route..unless like so many 'peacelovers' he flipped in middle age. But Obama has not ruled out Iran as next on the list..but you wanna see a division in this country ?? Elect someone with a middle name Hussein.
My, my Nancy..that reflection is probably as dead on
about Fred's psycho-social standing as I have heard.

Anyone who is truly anti-war, anti-build up would grow a pair and vote for the smart guy anyway..
McCain's money is on Haliburton having another stellar season.. a 3,281 % rise since 2004.
250k in 04 is now 8 million.

BTW, the Dems would absolutley LOVE it if McCain
were the opposition, he has dirt in his past that
he must think just went away. He was a loser the last time he ran, and he would lose again, plain and simple.

Whether people want to admit it or not, for whatever self-serving purposes that might serve..there really is only one decent person in the race on both sides..

If you haven't had your sides split lately, and/or you just need a laugh watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo

Fred is dead. The only thing that comes to mind when thinking about voting for one of these fools is a MAD-TV skit called "Lowered Expectations".

Well, I'm late to this party but csason's comment caught my eye. Ron Paul??? csason is a Rombie??? Say it ain't so! I've lived in SE Texas for 26 years. Many of those years RP has been a congressman. He's given Libertarians a bad name. He's goonier than a road lizard. Granted, our choices are pretty abysmal, but I still can't vote for a Chucklehead.

"Duane would have voted Obama if he were alive."

If Duane were alive he wouldn't vote. He'd be clawing and screaming, "Let me out of this freakin' coffin!"

And a belated Happy New Year, Donnah and the rest of you crackers.

No I am just chompin at the bit to vote for another POTUS who will give 100's of billions to every other country under the sun, while our ports and borders are wide open. Yeah I'm a real conservative..I like the idea of no taxes on SS. I like the idea of states rights. I like that Jane Roe and Barry Goldwater endorsed Paul. I like the idea of Americans controlling our money. I like the idea of freezing non-defense spending. I like the idea of
sound money. I like the idea of no anchor babies.
No I don't believe in conspiracy 9-11 theories..
I am opposed to 700+ bases, in places that hate us. I am opposed to invading countries that haven't the same number of Daisy cutters as we do..I am opposed to borrowing billions to finance the security of other nations.
Rombie indeed..

Go McCain I suppose..in other words Go Hillary.

In '92 I liked little Ross
and what happened? balancing the budget became a priority.
Often a non-mainsteamed canidate brings up issues that needs to be addressed, but the big dogs can't, 'cause ther're to busy rebuting each other.
I never heard of Ron until the other night.
His ideas will be looked at again, later.

csason, I was kidding about the Rombie comment ;-)

There are actually many of Paul's positions that I agree with. Getting rid of earmarks (although he happily requests them after he votes against the bill they're attached to), congressional term limits (although he's been in Congress for 20 years), eliminating the IRS (although in his 20 years he's never been able to pass any substantive legislation), and many others. I have two major problems that prohibit me from ever considering him. One is his foreign policy. It belongs in the 19th century. The second are all the crazies that support him. Every organized fascist group in the country has rallied around him. I've been exposed to quite a few of of his followers over the last six months. They are cultish. They know what liberty is but have no concept of the responsibility that goes along with it. All that is scary as hell to me and I want no part of it.
Your mileage may vary. Heck, you can't be all bad. You're a Gator fan and you play a pretty mean guitar ;-)

Yes Hamous..I can't be all bad, except for the cults and fascist groups I belong to..You weren't joking at all, and your feigned attempt at patronizing my stance at a very well liked and learned Congressman
fell short after the first fallacious statement.

Being that you've already become quite adept at marginalizing Ron Paul, and me in the process..it would be ridiculous at best for me to respond with
the truth.

I never cared much for schooling the ignorant anyway, I prefer to allow them to languish in their ignorance, it's much more enjoyable on my part than arguing.

Glad you enjoyed peeping into my closet.

Hillary will have McCain for lunch..and we will probably be better off for it.

Arlo Guthrie endorsed Ron Paul, so there.

csason - No, I really was joking. Sorry you took offense. It cannot be denied that there are many kooky groups on the RP bandwagon. I did not put you in any of those groups. I don't think any of my statements are fallacious. And at 3% he can't be that popular. I've got friends here that support RP both for President and Congress. while they strongly disagree with me they don't take it personally.

I've had some pretty good discussions with you here the last couple of years. Don't hate me because I'm not on the RP choo-choo. My dislike for RP was in no way meant to disparage you.

Of Dr. Paul, Ronald Reagan once said: “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.”