Apparently a lot of the white American ones want a woman in the White House:
Republican Rep. Candice S. Miller says Barack Obama had only one shot at Palin-proofing the Democratic ticket — and he missed it when he passed over Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.“Every woman in America knows what Barack Obama did to Hillary Clinton: He looked at her and thought, ‘There’s no way I’m doing that,’” said Miller. “If Hillary was on the ticket, he’d be in a much better position to win women voters.”
Sarah Palin’s presence — coupled with Clinton’s absence — may be altering one of the great verities of American politics: that women voters overwhelmingly favor Democrats.
A Washington Post-ABC News poll released this week showed white women swinging hard against the Democratic ticket. Obama left Denver with an 8-point lead among white women; by the time John McCain pulled out of St. Paul, Minn., with Palin at his side, he had taken a 12-point lead.
Former Clinton strategist and pollster Mark Penn on Tuesday said that it’s too soon to know where women will wind up in November, and he declined to engage in any “woulda, coulda, shoulda” speculation about how things might be different if Clinton were on the Democratic ticket.
But another former Clinton adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the “Obama people have got to be kicking themselves” for not putting choosing Clinton as his No. 2.
Julia Piscitelli of the American University’s Women and Politics Institute agreed.
“I don’t think Palin would be seeing these kind of gains if Hillary was on the ticket,” she said. “When Obama picked Biden, it gave Republicans an opening, and they are taking full advantage of it. ... The question is: How long will it last?”
The answer, some Democrats say, is not long.
“I don’t think this is a real swing [in the polls] until it’s been a week, said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), one of Obama’s busiest female surrogates. “We’ll need to see whether Sarah Palin is willing to answer questions. ... No one will be a stronger advocate for Barack Obama and Joe Biden than Hillary Clinton.”
Sen. Blanche L. Lincoln (D-Ark.) also sounded the Palin-will-wilt-in-the-spotlight theme.
“Sarah Palin delivered a great speech, but we haven’t heard anything else about what she’s going to do,” Lincoln said. “American women are smart, they’re bright and this election isn’t just about Sarah Palin. This is about what they want to do for the country.”
The Obama campaign has denied that it has a serious problem with female voters.
On Monday, campaign manager David Plouffe told a Washington Post reporter, “Your poll is wrong,” adding, “We certainly are not seeing any movement like that. Polls, time to time, particularly on the demographic stuff, can have some pretty wild swings.”That view won support from two unlikely sources Tuesday: Penn and a Republican senator who backs the McCain-Palin ticket.
Penn said that women are going to be “the absolute swing vote in this campaign, and it’s not clear which direction they are going to go in.
“I don’t think it’s a Hillary backlash we’re seeing,” he added. “With Palin on the ticket, we’re going to be seeing this thing swing back and forth.”
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), who has had a strained relationship with her state’s governor, downplayed Palin’s power. “I find it difficult to believe that many of the Hillary supporters are going to come over just because of Sarah Palin,” Murkowski said. “It should be about strength of positions” and policy.
But Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is locked in a tough race of her own, says several women — former Clinton supporters — have come up to her in Maine to say Palin gives them a reason to back McCain.
“I have never seen such excitement in the Republican Party as we’re seeing in response to Sarah Palin,” Collins said. “I’ve had a lot of Democrats and independent women in Maine who say they’re happy to see a woman on the ticket. Many of them saw an Obama-Clinton ticket as unbeatable. ... That is significant and remarkable.”
Quinnipiac University Polling Institute Assistant Director Peter A. Brown said the Obama campaign is fooling itself if it discounts the importance of the problem. “This isn’t about Hillary; it’s about Obama’s problem with white women voters,” he said. “Hillary won about 10 million votes from women voters in the Democratic primaries — there are 52 million women voting in the general election.”
Clinton has said she’ll hit the road for Obama, but her team says she refuses to be an anti-Palin “attack dog.” Further complicating matters for Obama, Hillaryland fundraiser Susie Tompkins Buell is leading a group that will fight media sexism against the Alaska governor.
Grim satisfaction chez Clinton, no doubt.
We'll see how this shakes down over the next few weeks.
(Hail Mary link via George in e-mail.)
Posted by floridacracker at September 10, 2008 02:38 PMObviously, politics is something best left to
talk about in the afterglow of Duane Allman's picture.
csason everything is best left in the afterglow of Duane Allman's picture! ;)
I think she sure is making this election interesting....bringing out the claws on both sides....that means political parties as well as the age old male/female squabbles. This is gonna be fun for the next couple of months.
See I can post about something other than DA.
Posted by: cindy at September 11, 2008 04:57 PM"DO you think we are in a Holy War?"
My answer:
Well, Charlie, we may not be..but they sure are.
Oh, I forgot..this is a fake war, with fake oil, and fake soldiers..
Posted by: csason at September 12, 2008 07:28 AMWhat women want?
The ladies of the "View" didn't cut McCain any slack, in fact they were brutal.
Walters didn't behave like a serious journalist when Obama appeared on the show. No, she practically gave him a blow job.
Sherry uses abortion as birth control, "I've had more abortios than I can remember."
I won't even go there with Whoopi.
President or not, issues and opinions or not, the man is a national treasure, and should have been treated with the respect he is due. That's media bias, Americans.
In addition, the "change" Obama is talking about is also known as socialism, and what he refers to as "brotherly" others have spoke it as "comrads".
Be careful, and examine the evidence. Change is not always a good thing.
I'd rather keep the devil I know, than the devil I don't know.
"Help me, Billy Jeff! You're my only hope!"
Posted by: panhandle cooter at September 14, 2008 10:22 AMWouldn't it be great to have an ARMY of little Obamas running around with little 'Public Allies'
armbands ?? A Public Allies Army, bigger than the American military !! All ready to serve our country by enforcing social change using sensitivity
training like is offered in college these days..!!
Wow, since I could not afford college, and didn't qualify like Obama's dad did, and Michelle did, and Obama did..(and I wasn't hot like Palin, so I could earn scholarship money in a bathing suit) this would be my first opportunity to grovel at the feet of a sensitivity trainer, and be abused, ridiculed and swaller all those slurs, like the really cool people..
yippeee..
On second thought.. I like gator hunting better.
Besides..50 years of forced integration, Affirmative Action policies is not enough.
It has long been said that it is the social construct which leads to the unfair bias amongst regular ol Americans like me..It is only fair that we elect a black man to the office of POTUS.
Clarence Thomas 2024 !!!
Posted by: csason at September 15, 2008 01:50 PMA comprehension piece I use to assign after a unit on "Colonial Times and The Revolutionary War" was a story board. The kids had to illustrate the six phrases of the Preamble...We the people, In order to form a more perfect union, and so on.
Many times (a lot) the child would draw a picture of a man handing a check to another character for "To provide for the welfare" piece. A dialog bubble would say, "Here's your welfare". Cute yea, but unfortunately that's the schema some adults have too.
Owen, talking about students. I've taken my autoharp to school and been teaching American folk songs. It has a lot of literacy benefits, and it's fun. Today they learned "The Wabash Cannonball" :) Tarheel mocked me, and asked if I was going to teach "Nine Pound Hammer" next, but I can't Travis pick good enough for that.
Nancy.. on a non-political related note.. A friend of mine just acquired Ol Man Stoneman's 'tipple'.
It is a 1932 small 10 string guitar of sorts, made by Martin. It sounds like a music box, even when a dog's tail brushes it by accident. I guess you'd say it is a handmade cross between a mandolin and a guitar.
'Pop' Stoneman, was instrumental in the Bristol Sessions, which led to the discovery of the Carter family, and Jimmie Rogers.
There are little 'notes' and writings inside the case..signed 'Stoneman'..
Yeah I am pretty much fed up with listening to the 'disadvantaged' tales of Obama, led by the MSM
..as well anybody who isn't decorticate should be.
But since I am a white southron, my opinion doesn't count. The only thing I am good for is paying taxes, and being re-educated.
I wonder how much the taxes are on a two million dollar house..?