Oh yah, cool pic!
He's definitely got the focus and a handle on the mastery. Wonder what this would look like with Derek in b&w too... Might blend together better even, make it look like a side-by-side jam.

And this is how Duane keeps a-wailin on forever!
Thanks Donnah!

They don't belong in the same frame..sry.

Derek is way noisier. Not even close.

I agree.

Sacrilege. Derek is a capable player, but please...You may as well photoshop my sorry ass into that frame. Sacrilege.

That is about the weirdest thing I've seen in a long time. And why does it remind me of "Field of Dreams?"

I heard if you leave a Coricidin bottle on a stump in the swamp at midnight on a full moon, when you close your eyes you'll get a whiff of Kools and hear the opening to "Statesboro" in the distance...

Oh no.....say it ain't so Donnah. Saying Derek Trucks is Duane incarnate as so many people do, is a sacrilege as mike said. Although a very capable player, he doesn't have the "fire". Sometimes I think he plays notes/chords just to hear himself.I just can't see folks 40+ years later still salivating over any and all details they can get on Derek.....no he cannot hold a pick to Duane.

Now is there a specific stump and swamp or will any one do? Tonight seems like a good night....no wait....no full moon. Should I wait for the full moon? Thank you Donnah for the pic...I will photoshop Derek out if you don't mind and thanks for the swamp info!

Wail on, Skydog!

I agree. Some DBG needs to be applied to this photo. I got excited (no not that way, Starla) when I first heard Derek Trucks was picking up the slide mantle but alas he doesn't live up to my creative expectations. Put Derek's slide on that same stump and you get the whiff of Zima and a scented candle. Wail on Duane, you can't be topped.

ROTFL, Willard. God, that cracked me up.

Technically he's far superior, but Derek still can't compare; he lacks the soul, the balls, the fire, whatever you want to call it. Duane was a bluesman. Derek's an extremely good, but boring, guitar player.

I've read that the ABB shows footage of Duane on the big screen at their concerts during certain songs/guitar solos. To me, that seems pretty cool. This photoshopped deal with Derek not so much. I'm sure whoever did it had only good intentions but Duane is nobody's shadow! I agree with the others - blasphemy!

And I must thank Donnah for the B-day gift! Sweeeet :) (And that's all I'll say about that as to not upset the men folk :D}

I've read that the ABB shows footage of Duane on the big screen at their concerts during certain songs/guitar solos. To me, that seems pretty cool. This photoshopped deal with Derek not so much. I'm sure whoever did it had only good intentions but Duane is nobody's shadow!

And I must say thank you Donnah for the B-day gift! Starla & Cindy were right - Sweeeet :) (And that's all I'll say about that as to not upset the men folk :D}

Sorry about the double post there. I went to change some stuff & didn't realize it already went through. Ugh.

What's even weirder is that Derek is just playing a straight cord - no slide anywhere! Ask me what I know about a little Crown Royal sack of Coricidin bottles buried on Bett's property and who they used to belong to...

There must be a swamp nearby - maybe we can get him to conger up some Cool whiffs for everyone!

Congratulations, Lisa! Welcome to the Sisterhood! *opens bottle of champagne* Now we'll cut a little lock of your hair, and we'll cut locks of our own hair, and we'll fill that Coricidin bottle with the champagne and add in our hair, and we'll put the lid back on and leave it sitting on that stump there and wait for a full moon!
So how you feeling now, Sister Lisa? Little bit overheated? Light-headed? Wobbly-legged? Loopy?

In defense of Derek here folks, never has he ever said or implied that he was anything as great as Duane!
Derek is a down to earth, likeable man who is a hell of a guitar player in his own right! He is humble and grew up with a guitar strapped on his chest and a coricidin bottle attached to his finger. He's been Duane's greatest fan from the beginning of his life. And he has heritage too, his uncle Trucks is the drummer for the ABB.

His style is completely different and unique unto itself. He weaves Indian melodies in and out of his solos which Duane never did.

I have used this photoshop picture as a wallpaper from time to time. To me, its more of a passing of the torch...Gregg n the band picked Derek cause he does have the chops to play with them. Warren Haynes will vouch for him too.

The only thing Derek and Duane have in common is the love of slide guitar playing. As I said before Derek doesnt try to copy Duanes licks and never has...except when he was very young.

And because he was named Derek after Derek and the Dominoes...some of Duane's greatest slide work, I think it is fitting he is playing in the ABB band.

Like him or not, he is no copy cat for sure and has his own unique licks and has the talent to play with anyone he pleases. I think Duane would be well pleased with Derek like the rest of the band is.

He didnt create this wallpaper shot, but I do like it. A passing of the torch...to me...homage to maintaining the high standards of Duane's playing. And it doesnt bother me one bit.

And if you in the South some hot, humid night and you listen real close, you might hear the high lonesome sound of some cat playing slide on his porch late at night. It doesnt mean they profess to be Duane Allman.

Well said Remebering....he is a hell of a guitar player.....just not my cup of tea. It's more of a difference in tone than anything else, at least to me. As stated earlier....Duane was a bluesman, Derek isn't. And God, I love the blues.

GH-SS do tell about the buried bag...Betts property huh....anywhere near a swamp? If any brother could do some congering it would be Mr. Betts.

A blues legend's slides cached and buried in a Crown Royal sack! How delightfully folky!

Thank you Sister Starla! I guess you could say I'm feelin' a little :O and :)

And about Derek Trucks, I mean no disrespect to him whatsoever. I'm sure he's a great guy. It's just about the picture is all. I sometimes get a little over-protective when it comes to Duane. I know Duane would be proud of him.

The photoshop job really does look funny, regardless of how one feels about Derek. Face it, Photoshop *is* funny in general.
Yes, Lisa, I suspect you'll be feelin' pretty :o :) for quite some time now.
Didn't he have the most beautiful...
SMILE?! lol

Heard it from an old friend Chris A. who saw the bag himself. It's a long and windy story and not fit for print but I'll tell you in person some time. I think Scotty A. had one too that Duane gave him - I wonder what became of it now that he's up there with the others at that big jam in the sky?

Derek is a good slide player, but in my opinion he has been way oversold..Every time I hear another 'convert' I lose respect for them..Jesse Ed in my opinion was better.
The reason I think it is worth the effort of making a distinction is anyone who has listened to Duane's slide work (and others) for any length of time can tell he put a great deal of effort into getting certain songs down to the inth degree. If you listen to the different live versions of Statesboro Blues, for instance, they used the practically flawless version for the final release. There was no 'drag noise' in between the notes..and if you wanna try this for yourself, go get a shot glass or similar and drag it up a Les Paul at 10 on a Marshall 50 with a couple of half stacks and then maybe you would understand.
I have friends who have come close to making the same noise..and most of the noiseless players I know aren't well known. Kirk Lorange is the closest to noiseless I have heard yet, that still has the scale at his disposal.

Derek hits a lot of hard to reach notes, but is actually awfully noisy in getting there.

Criminitly, I almost didn't forget..

Just think, one day..some construction worker will discover that bag o' bottles, and the tabloids will
go wild with sick stories about Dickey's drug problems.. :(

Starla Dahling.. *I* heard if you take a Coricidan
bottle on a full moon, on put it on a stump in the swamp.. A skinny southern boy with a towel rolled up in his pants will appear..

BTW, folks..Derek has to stare at his SG..What amazes me on a continuous basis about the live footage of Duane is that he isn't even looking
at what he's playing.

When you get there, you're not supposed to be compared to *anyone*.

Owen, I know. That's why I put the bottle there. And that's why I have Cindy and Donnah and Lisa with me. How would you like it if you got conjured up in some lonely swamp some night with a full moon and found only one woman there to meet you? No choice, no variety, no options? You'd think you'd gotten a pretty shabby deal, wouldn't you?
(Also, I'm afraid of bugs and wouldn't want to face the denizens of the Swamp Primeval by myself.)

No more discussion of Derek Trucks......this is Duane Allman/Skydog Wednesday by Ms. Donnah.....Queen of all things Duane.....

Mr. Howard Duane Allman, the best of the best...period!

Wail on Skydog! (see you in the swamp, on Betts property with a Crown Royal bag full of coricidin bottles for your pleasure)

I know of a another authentic coricidin bottle that belongs to Duane. It is residing on his ring finger in his grave. Before they permanently sealed his casket they put a doobie in his shirt pocket and a slide on his finger. God bless him.

Y'all, Im a bit of a pot stirrer I will own up to that. Because I am homebound 99% of the time due to a mobility issue I have lots of time to think and respond here. And I flat out love a good conversation with different opinions mixed in too!lol

Derek has come a long, long way since he began his guitar journey. He used to drive me nuts because his slide playing isnt as fluid as Duane's or as soulful. He is lots better now, and of course, he can not, or would want to be a clone of Duane Allman. His influences are much more diverse and it shows. Duane copied harmonica player lines and sax lines to get that fluid feel going for slide. Totally different styles for sure. I still maintain that ABB is so lucky to have Derek in the band. Bands are subject to unfortuate deaths and changes in their line up. It shakes up things and changes the sound but the legend continues with Derek. Both Warren and Derek have said in interviews that they maintain the overall Abb sound but create new lines that are totally different as they dont want to be a copy band of past glories. And they arent. They are a very cohesive unit that can play any song ever written. Its different but, its still the ABB.

I will always love the Duane years best of all. Hell, Duane's playing got me playing guitar in the 70s too.

And slide noise, I can hear it sometimes in Duanes playing. Remember, mikes and sound equipment r much more sensitive than back then. There is no way anyone one can play slide without some noise. Its inheirent in the style.

Now, question, on the original pink labeled album Live at the Fillmore East. What is that barking noise going on behind Duane's solo on Must have done somebody wrong? Its only on the original pressing and its on the early cds too. Later versions had the barking sound filtered out, but I gotta hear it or Im not happy. Whatever that extra sound is, feedback or whatever it belongs there.

So, in closing got to love the Duane era best of all, but I love the current line up too. By the way Derek plays everything in open E tuning, even non slide tunes. Something Duane didnt do. Some songs were played in standard tuning, like Dreams. Stranger yet, Warren Haynes who sounds more like Duane than anyone plays everything including slide parts in standard tuning.

We may agree to disagree on this forum but the bottom line is were all registered Duaniacs and that will never change!

I didn't mean to impugn Derek's talent as much as to hold it up to Duane's. Just to have someone linked to the original Allmans by family playing with them is a reason for joy. The original group was lightning in the coricidin bottle. I honestly can't make myself listen to an entire Allman recording after 'Enlightened Rogues' . Thank God for the original group recordings that have been made available in recent years.

On another note, I must admit my frustration that Starla didn't rise to my comment pointed her way. At 51, it is about the only excitement I can hope for.

Damn, Willard..I hope you know what you're gettin into.

Starla Dahling.. *IF* I ever have the divinity to be *conjured* up in a swamp by some sweet thing(s)
with a stump wielding Coricidan bottle, and a towel
rolled up in my pants..I sure hope I have the noise
cut down in between my notes.. ;)

I sure as hell would hate to be unprepared for a moment like that. Maybe I should take my own personal Corcidan bottle out and do a little consult with the *master* aforehand, so I be on guard. Please wait till I have passed on before
it is attempted..and no Viagra, I've had enough problems with chemistry as it is.

NOW for the rebuttal:

RD, I feel ya dog (new American english for *I understand*) although I am currently mobile, I have been in your shoes..don't give up, bro.
I was being examined for disability a few years ago..and technically, I am about 25%, but don't tell anyone.

As for the observations about the focus of our attention, *Mr.* Allman..(as Derek should be required to use) I wouldn't say we *disagree* as much as we have differing opinions..much like *ahem* well..you know.

That barking noise, although my pink set is tucked away, and I don't recall it, probably is for a lack of a Marshall 'brake' that most players use now. I hadn't even seen one until just few years ago. Kind of takes out that stuff.

As for Warren, I am glad you brought him up, he is and has been way overlooked..and without reason, for all intents and purposes..He has worked very hard at his craft.
I will *disagree* on one thing..Derek does NOT always play in open E, although he does use the open E configuration primarily. (more on that in a sec) I don't see it as a strength..as it means (from experience) he is less agile in S44.
Whereas, Duane studied and became really, really, (almost perfect)really, good not only in open E, but downright Godlike in standard picking..He even put together some pretty damn good standard slide tunes as you mentioned.

Regardless, Derek is well loved and admired, and makes a lot more money than me..but as far as
putting them side by side in a picture..I'd rather see Duane's choice of band mate, not Eric, not Johnny, but Richard Betts..King of D.

To prove my assertion regarding tuning, I *played along* with our friend Derek..AND Warren in a video, where they did an acoustic version of Old Friend. In that version, Warren appears to be in dropped D, and Derek is in open D.

I know, because I had to go there.. to do that.

Now..I don't purport to follow them note for note, more just to get into the main riff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SysY0h5QmuE
the original is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UauECrCIYl8

That is a 57 ES 125

It was a dog. There was a bomb treat that night and the police brought a bomb sniffing dog. No bombs were found but I'll bet the dog got a contact high.

If truth be known Willard, no one living or dead can hold a candle to the depth and feeling and passion of a Duane Allman solo! Look how many years it has been and still no real contenders. There will only be one and only one Duane Allman and he will remain in our hearts forever! Its not only his music for me, but the man's passion for life and humanity. Many people have said that he had a very spiritual quality to him and people who met him for the first time could feel it. Its my opinion that his spirit flowed from the notes he played and that is why so many connected, and still connect to his heavenly playing. Enuff said, Rock on and have you a good time! :>

Time does march on though, and I for one am quite pleased with the current ABB line up. I just wish I could attend one of their Beacon shows in the spring. Or second best, isnt it way past time they came out with another live dvd?

I've read about the barking noise, Remembering. I can't recall where I read it but it is actually a dog on stage, or pretty close to being on stage.

And Starla, I'll be there with the Deep Swamp Off spray and some extra nets for all of us. Now you must keep in mind though when Duane shows up, the only thing we want him whipping out is his guitar!! ;)

Err, Lisa, I dont think its a actual dog barking....its something to do with his playing and the speakers...itss a low sound dog like, barking like feedback with the amps/speakers...I think I would have read about it and remembered it, if a real dog was on stage at the famous venue, the Fillmore East. That would have been a thrill. Dog howling at Duane's slide playing...nah...that ole dog would bow down to him not howl...:>

I'll be seeing DT on 2-8-09, and the ABB at the Beacon on 3-9, 3-12, and 3-20.

Can't wait.....

Hmm..Remembering, I could have swore I read that somewhere. Maybe it was in a forum of some sort & the person didn't know what they were talking about. I haven't listened to the original Fillmore East Album/CD in years though. I always listen to the "Fillmore Concerts" on CD. I may just have to drag out that old album & give it a listen. I don't recall the barking noise, but I'm very interested to hear what your talking about now.

Yea, I guess when I read that I didn't think it would be too unusual for a dog to be up there hangin' out. Lucky dog I should say!

Yes, Lisa, I'll behave myself as well as I am able. Now let's see, have we got everything: Off! mosquito netting, champagne and plastic cups, beach blanket, something to deter the alligators... am I forgetting anything?

I just noticed up above that Steve also mentions it being a dog. I didn't see his post earlier. (where did that come from? Must have missed it) Did you not see it either Remembering? He says something about a bomb sniffing dog. Hmmmm...

The only other thing I can think of Starla would be some good herb to share with Duane! :)

He probably had the good stuff, anything we brought along would be second-best.

RD, I posted earlier, but I included a link..so it has to pass through Donnah's hands first.

I have my pink set packed up..for a rainy day.
I remember the sound and Marshall came up with the
'brake' for it. It happen(s) when you top out a Marshall amp.
Hopefully my length post I made earlier will pass the peach fuzz...lots of juicy stuff for Starla and the other wimmin.

Oh My Goodness!!! =O
I didnt mean to stir up a hornets nest over this picture!!!

You cant compare a red delicious with a granny smith, and I wasnt holding these two up side by side, but observing their guitar work with the ABB together. No DUH Duane was-and-is-and-always-will-be the BEST of all, from finger style to tone to slide technique to personality to proffessional presence!

And you're right about Dereks own sound, all of you. He still has some stock slide bits leftover from when he used to copy Duanes leads when he was young, but has walked a completely different path into indian soul and funk and jazz and modern music. And me, Im a blues man, but I can definitely appreciate Dereks work on guitar and Im seemingly one of the few that will give him high marks for what he does so well.

And no one, I mean NO ONE, can EVER say that he's even on Duanes level. He could definitely have woven guitar licks between Duanes, but you'd always crack a smile or shed a tear at Duanes. He pulled at your heart and soul like that with his notes. Derek just has a big wow factor with his crazy licks and hard tone.

Oh and you gotta look closer at this pic... Duane may be here in b&w, but theres no shadow across his profile, its over there on top of Derek.
(and in Dereks defense, he plays with his eyes closed often, as well as glancing around the back of the venues. Duane interacted so much with everyone around him...drawing them in. I think he was an extrovert and Derek is an introvert...)

I just say, this is one deserving kid being granted as close as you can get to a fantastic dream of mine, and a dream many others share, too.(to jam with that incredible Skyman) And I'll say it; he deserves it more than most/all of us for doing what little he can in that huge gulf where Duane once was in the ABB.

One last thought:
We're all still ABB fans, right?
Would you like to see them without Derek at all, with just Warren filling, or even emptiness where Duanes solos once echoed? I think Derek does fine tying the songs up with well executed chops. And I'd also admit.. I can do nothing but TRY to copy Duanes work, so Derek is doin alright to me.

No replacement, but at least he brings a great level of talent into the band for his part.

But most importantly of all...
Wail on, SKYDOG! Never another like Duane.

Well stated Ben, I have nothing to add to that, you said it all Bro! Rock on, and have you a good time.

When I said Derek plays in open E, I didnt mean all the time. No one uses the same tuning all the time. I am well versed with the video Old friend with Warren and Derek. Bought it back in 2003. If you have that double dvd hold on to it, i hear from good sources it is now, out of print!

Hoping and praying with all my heart that one fine day I can see ABB live! Something always happens at the last moment to prevent it. Last time in was Hurricane Rita.. had primo tickets in hand too. Bummer, been a fan for 39 years and still havent gotten to see them live!

Listen, Do I hear a slide moaning on a moon lit night down by the river? Duane has a fishing pole stuck in the ground and Delaney and him are sitting on a stump playing dobro together. Listen to the sweet sounds moving in the night! Those notes never fade away completely once you have heard them. They carry you away to another place and time and stay with you all the days of your life! Wail on skydog, Wail on!
(grinning like a cat eating glue! woo, woo! :>)

I saw Andy Aledort last night in a small club. He's no slouch with a slide....

He's touring with the Dickey Betts orchestra this year...

Duane's GT is for sale.

http://www.duaneallmansgoldtop.com/

Owen, you didn't follow proper procedure there. You should've quietly bought it (taking out a second mortgage and selling a kidney if necessary) and THEN surprised us all by announcing "Look what I got!" Just think of the adoration and envy you would then receive!
You might even get invited into the swamp with us.

And now for Starla's Bit of Totally Random and Irrelevant Jibba-Jabba of the Day:
Just realized, reading a true crime book:
Duane Allman and Ted Bundy share the same birthday: November 24, 1946.
Don't laugh. It may come in handy on some game show or other. Owen, you may manage to win the price of that Gold Top you want just by knowing this.
You can thank me later.

Sorry Starla, Duane was born on the 20th.

Oh... oh crap! Damn me!
For some reason when I read "Ted Bundy was born on..." the date hit hard in my mind and I didn't even bother to check. Stupid stupid stupid!
It's true what they say about pot making you act silly, isn't it?
Thanks Willard.
Now I'll have to become a hermit and live in the swamps and be eccentric and slightly spooky, out of sheer embarrassment.
At least neither party is going to be able to sue me.

Or maybe, if you hide in a van down by the river
with a set of beat up dentures late at night...the ghost of Ted Bundy will offer to give you some paralegal classes..

Eeeeek.

Hope *he* doesn't have a towel in his britches..

No thanks, I think I'd rather do the swamp-angel thing. At least on full moon nights I'll have plenty of visitors.
My swamp parties will be the stuff of legend!
*paddles canoe around a bend, wearing skirt made of flamingo feathers*

I think Skydog would prefer leather.. but whatever floats your canoe..;)

Ok, I'm thinking of offering the guy what he has in the guitar PLUS I have some old pickups laying around.. (D'marzio's I think..) AND 50 bucks +
my entire Ray Charles album collection. Whaddya think ? Should I throw in my pink set too ?

I think you should not throw in anything that, a year or more from now, you'll wish you still had around. That's my rule about bartering and fair trade. :)
And as to leather versus feather? I clean forgot I'm in the swamp! I can shoot me some alligators and make an alligator miniskirt! Shoes to match! And with the much more delicate flamingo skins, which I'm sure I could tan with the feathers still on, I'll make some soft, floaty feminine tops!

Well the gator skin skirt sounds ok.. but I'd shy away from using any spanish moss, if that crossed your mind..Not that Duane would wanna smoke it so much as the redbug factor that has we have all been briefed on.

Don't worry, I wouldn't touch that nasty-looking Spanish moss with a ten foot pole. Even if I didn't know it was full of bugs, it still looks dirty and like it would feel unpleasant.

It looks kind of nice in pictures..and when you're driving by it on a nice breezy day..

I just figured since we were assessing 'swamp wear' by midnight moonlight, I'd throw that in for effect.

Maybe some owl feathers ?

Oooh, nice! I've seen a stuffed owl once in a museum. Those feathers are so soft and rich-looking!
Feathers, gator leather, maybe some lacy ferns, how about snakeskin... I think somebody needs to call the fashion magazines and get them to do a shoot.

That swamp outfit would need the fashion police, not a fashion magazine. I have pictures of Poke Salad Annie (yuck) in my head with these fashions ya'll are conjuring up.

Donnah, save us from this mess!;D

I was thinking more along the lines of Lady Marmalade crossed with Pocahontas myself.
But maybe you can kidnap me to Jacques Penay and get me dolled up right.

Starla,Your butt may have been closer to that nasty spanish moss than you would like!
If you have ever sat upon a old couch from the 50s and maybe later, many chairs and couches were full of the stuff. It was the material used in the cushions.

ooh, if this "bugs" you, lol at least it was "green" and a natural material that is/was bio-degradable...and didnt lanquish in a dump for 1000 years or more before it decomposes.

Eek, I can see Starla jumping around the room screaming...Get that damn old couch outa here...
lmao...!

RD, thanks a lot. You gotta choice now. Would you like to be flipped off (like I did to Owen; he seems no worse off for the experience) or shall I tip you out of your wheelchair onto a red ant hill?
*squats down and examines the couch cushions*

Choices, choices Starla! Considering we have fire ants here that leave painful blisters and itchin, go ahead make my day...flip me off..just stay out of the swamps late at night on a moonlite night where there r accessable lanes, you might hear a squeak or maybe not as I put wheelchair marks across your back side and leave a coricidin slide beside your bruised and battered butt...lmao again...
(No Starlas were injured or maimed in this humorist post, all in good fun) :>

Choices, choices Starla! Considering we have fire ants here that leave painful blisters and itchin, go ahead make my day...flip me off..just stay out of the swamps late at night on a moonlite night where there r accessable lanes, you might hear a squeak or maybe not as I put wheelchair marks across your back side and leave a coricidin slide beside your bruised and battered butt...lmao again...
(No Starlas were injured or maimed in this humorist post, all in good fun) :>

That's what it's all about, isn't it? Choices.
YOU better be careful in the swamps, buddy. I'll have a pet Florida panther that is tame only for me and who'll protect me faithfully from any dangers.
Oh, while you're in here, look out for that quicksand.

And Starla, by the way, you r very lucky I didnt back up and run over you twice, like the above accidental double post. But, then I am non violent by nature and it would be difficult to explain running over you twice, when my alibi for the first incident would be,"Sorry officer, I didnt know it was Starla, I thought it was a bunch of buggy Spanish moss in the lane."
I know, Im bad...please dont hurt me Starla! :>

And that, right there, is why I won't be messing with Spanish moss, RD. You won't be able to use the excuse "I just thought it was a bundle of pink flamingo feathers laying in the road" as easily as the moss excuse.