January 30, 2009

Nadya Suleman: The Jocelyn Wildenstein Of The Maternity Sweeps

If you've got the cash, there's always a doctor willing to help you get your freak on:

CBS News has learned that the family of the octuplets born this week outside Los Angeles filed for bankruptcy and abandoned a home a little over a year-and-a-half ago.

Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman says the mother is in her mid-thirties and lives with her parents.

There's been no mention of the octuplets' father, Kauffman observes.

The grandfather, she adds, is apparently going to head back to his native Iraq to earn money for the growing family. He told CBS News he's a former Iraqi military man.

Kauffman reported Thursday, and the octuplets' maternal grandmother now confirms to the Los Angeles Times, that the babies' mother already had six young children.

And a family acquaintance had told Kauffman that two of the six other kids are twins, and the six range in age from about two to about seven.

The mother's name is still being kept under wraps.

But her mother, Angela Suleman, also tells the newspaper her daughter conceived the octuplets through a fertility program.

Suleman told the Times her daughter had embryos implanted and, "They all happened to take."

On The Early Show Friday, the scientific director of an Atlanta-area fertility clinic blasted whichever clinic did the implantations, saying he's "stunned."

Doctors at the hospital where the octuplets were born, Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center in Bellflower, Calif., some 17 miles southeast of L.A., say the patient came to them already three months pregnant.

Asked at a news conference whether fertility assistance should be provided for a mother who already has multiple children, Dr. Harold Henry, part of the team that delivered the octuplets, said, "Kaiser has no policy on that, adding that doctors counseled the woman on her options.

"The options," said Henry, "were to continue the pregnancy or to selectively abort. The patient chose to continue the pregnancy."

Dr. Karen Maples, who also helped deliver the octuplets, read a statement from the mother saying, "My family and I are ecstatic about all of their arrivals."

The woman and her children live in a neighborhood of small, one-story homes, Kauffman reports, all with two-to-three bedrooms at most. Soon, she pointed out, there will be 14 children and at least three adults living in one of the homes -- until the grandfather heads back to his native Iraq,

Kauffman says unanswered questions include where the woman got the fertility treatments and how they were paid for.

On The Early Show Friday, Michael Tucker, scientific director of Georgia Reproductive Specialists, says all these developments leave him "stunned. As the story's unfolded and it's gone from the potential use of just fertility drugs, or misuse thereof, to actual, apparently, IVF (in-vitro fertilization) with transfer of embryos, this is just remarkable to me that any practitioner in our field of reproductive medicine would undertake such a practice."

Tucker, who has a doctorate in reproductive physiology, says it's "absolutely" possible the octuplets' mother got pregnant with them by taking fertility drugs on her own without the help of a clinic, "and that seemed the most plausible scenario, simply because the profession, we're policed by the American Society of Reproductive Medicine, has focused so minutely on the fact that we need to reduce the number of embryos that we transfer. We really are all about seeking the one, the one embryo that's going to make the healthy, single-born baby.

"And this kind of multiple plethora excess of babies is too much of a good thing. And it's rather a slap in the face of the whole profession, simply because it's going in the wrong direction.

"And it's unfortunate, because the media pick up on this and seem to go, I think, Arthur Kaplan from UPenn (University of Pennsylvania) said the media tend to go goo-goo gaga over this and, in fact, it's really a bit of a medical disaster."

"Had she walked into a fertility clinic and said, 'Listen, I've got other children, the oldest seven, the youngest two,' co-anchor Julie Chen asked Tucker, "is there any ethical responsibility on the clinic's part to say, 'I'm not going to treat you,' or, 'You know what? This is not a good idea?" '

"Suffice to say," Tucker responded, "I've been in this business for 25 years now. And it's pretty much standard practice in all clinics to have some form of psychological evaluation of the patient. Also, their sociological circumstances. And I'm stunned, actually, that a clinic would proceed to treat a patient in this circumstance and then even to get to perhaps the transfer of embryos and ponder the transfer in, I believe, the lady's mid-30s, a 35-year-old -- she should be receiving two embryos, maximum, as a transfer into her uterus to have had eight transferred is somewhat -- is extremely irresponsible."

A record search shows that the Sulemans are Ed, Angela, and Nadya. And apparently 14 kids under the age of 8. How tragic for them.
The bright side is that during all that implanting, the taxpayer's wallet might have gotten transferred in there as well. It could happen! There was lots going on, after all.

I see a visit to Oprah in their future.

UPDATE:
Unregulated freakshow.

Posted by floridacracker at January 30, 2009 12:15 PM

   


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This story is repulsive on so many levels. Not least of which is the strong smell of "publicity stunt/money grab" that hangs about it. Yeah, Mama says she doesn't want to be identified, but you better believe once she gets her publicist or agent lined up she'll be trotting her whole litter before any camera that will have them. Probably try to get her own TV show too, see if she can steal Jon and Kate's thunder. Michelle Duggar and Jim Bob must be crying in despair now, cause even they can't produce a litter of eight now.
What'd she do, order fertility pils online from Bangladesh or something? And so many people in this country, hell, in her own town probably, can't get even the most basic medical care.
And the good doctor is right: The media going "goo goo ga ga" is no help at all.

Posted by: Starla Darling at January 30, 2009 01:41 PM

The actions of the adults involved in this story are as ugly as anything reflecting off of Wildenstein's mirror.

Posted by: Donnah at January 30, 2009 02:00 PM

For some reason, this whole sordid tale puts me a little in mind of the book "Geek Love" which I just read a couple weeks ago. Basically the parents own a carnival, and they try to breed their own freaks for the freak show. The mothe rtakes weird pills and inhales various stuff, and she produces, among other things, a pair of Siamese twins, a midget hunchback, a boy with flippers for limbs, and those were just the ones that lived. They almost abandoned another son because they couldn't find anything wrong with him, but he turned out to be telekinetic and a psychic healer so they kept him.
Great book, but pretty disturbing too.

Posted by: Starla Darling at January 30, 2009 04:53 PM

I sure hope if these people go to get welfare or foodstamps they are DENIED. This woman makes me wonder what the hell youngins are thinking now a days.

Posted by: Sam at January 30, 2009 05:06 PM

This is a shame this loser already has 6 children on welfare and now she has 8 more making the taxpayers fork over more money. She should lose all her taxpayer funded programs that go to her.

Posted by: Tom at January 30, 2009 05:11 PM

Don't hold your breath, Sam..

Have you not heard..Money grows on trees here.

We can't print it fast enough to build a bigger, shinier government. I am thrilled..and we need to teach more kids to have kids..This is only the beginning.

Maybe Obama will learn to play fiddle, while this thing burns.

Posted by: csason at January 30, 2009 09:10 PM

They don't mention the father(s) of any of the children.

You know there's that old saying... If she weren't good enough fer her own......

Posted by: mike the bike at January 31, 2009 09:29 AM

I'm a registered nurse, and this story is appalling! I see this as a BIG scam by the physician, the clinic, and the patient. I also see movie deals, freebies from companies like Pampers, Gerber, and others. This woman will be bumping Jon and Kate Plus 8 off of TLC. Only in America could something so unethical probably make millions for this woman. And, I read that the mother is working on her Masters Degree in Counseling!!!

Posted by: elaine at January 31, 2009 02:16 PM

One of the 6 older children is autistic, and Nadya's mother plans to desert Nadya Suleman when she comes home from the hospital. I don't see how any single human can care for 14 children, 8 of whom are newborns, without outside help.

Posted by: BB at February 1, 2009 03:32 PM

Seems like that's really the ONLY way anybody can afford to have such ridiculous amounts of children, is to get freebies and movie deals. I blame the media for helping start the craze for Conspicuous Conception, and the stupid women that sit home and watch it and get suckered in by it.

Posted by: Starla Darling at February 1, 2009 05:40 PM

I think I am going to adopt 8 new parents..and get a book deal. Anybody interested ?

Posted by: csason at February 2, 2009 06:10 AM

Psych eval? The closest those places get to a psych evaluation is a wallet biopsy.

Posted by: tom at February 8, 2009 03:50 PM

Even freakin' Michael Jackson got the okay to adopt, so I for one have no faith in psych evals.

Posted by: Starla Darling at February 8, 2009 09:14 PM